I have no idea if Ozone and Oz are the same person. He or she or they seem not to be native users of English, so they might want to start with that language. But they seem not to be active in learning any language, essentially no saved LingQs.
Their knowledge of history is also a bit scanty. Stalin tried to avoid a war with Germany, tried very hard. Was essentially allied with Germany at the outbreak of the war. Even France and Britain thought they could sacrifice other countries’ territory to buy off the madman. But it is hard to say out of a war when you are massively invaded. Or if you allow your neighbourhood to be dominated by madmen and gangsters, it won’t be long till they come for you. Tragic loss of life numbering in the millions.
My inclination is to cancel Ozone’s account because of what are essentially hate messages “kill…”. Of course, in a way it doesn’t matter since he is so obviously not to be taken seriously. However,while I don’t have many rules here, obvious hate rants should be taboo.
I wouldn’t delete their accounts if I was in Steve’s place, but if I ever was to delete somebody’s account for something they wrote in the forum, it would be because of the kind of stuff Ozone wrote (not including obvious spammers of course). However, I guess Steve might want to remember the time he threatened to delete MADARA’s account for writing things that were much less serious than what Ozone and Ozzy have written. MADARA never talked about killing people, as far as I remember, and didn’t use racial slurs, or the equivalent of racial slurs for homosexuals (we all know a few).
Ozone clearly isn’t using the website to learn any languages, so deleting his/her account isn’t really a big deal anyway. He/she can just sign up for a new one without having lost anything. Anyway, given how badly they both write English, I would guess that Ozzy and Ozone are the same person.
I asked MADARA to edit his/her post or I would delete the account since we had no ability to delete posts at that time, only whole threads. MADARA agreed to amend the offending post if I remember. But I don’t really remember for sure.
But now I remember that we have added the ability to delete posts, so poof, that offending post is gone.
@Ozzy - I never said the Greek Golden Dawn etc were cults - I didn’t even bother looking them up, nor do I intend to. I said you both sound like cult members of some sort. Subsequently you’ve posted, “Reject the truth and you shall be overcome by darkness”. This sounds like brain-washed ranting to me. In my opinion your “truth” is for the most part mindless conspiracy thinking.
However, I notice you’ve taken an interest in studying several languages, and have availed yourself of asking questions on the language forums. And yet you now insult our language learning community by calling people here “anarchists”, “commies”, and suggested that Cgreen is mentally ill, someone whom has contributed much-appreciated help in our community. You also said you wished my country would be “engulfed by a civil war”.
How can you possibly expect anyone to assist your language learning questions anymore? You should treat people the way you want to be treated.
I don´t know why we need censorship, actually. It´s not like anyone will read Ozzy´s posts and think “Well, now I´ll start hating minority-xyz because Ozzy seems like a reasonable guy”. Where´s the harm?
Besides that, most people with extreme political or religious views are in a social bubble where people agree with them. Debating them could challenge their views, while deleting their posts just reinforces that “these ignorant people can´t stand the truth”-feeling…
Or do we need censorship to protect the feelings of those who are being attacked? Just curious…
I don’t think it’s so much that we need censorship to “protect people’s feelings”. How about just plain decency? As Colin pointed out earlier, trolling et cetera seems to have become commonplace on the internet, but does our LingQ community have to go down that path, too?
Advocating murder, and other such hate-filled rantings surely don’t belong on our forums.
27 million Russians dead - the official number, 40 million by some estimates.
On January 27 we commemorated the 70th anniversary of the liberation of Leningrad, where over a million people died from hunger in a 900-day blockade.
Every single family in my country has been affected by the War.
My country saved the world from what would’ve been a wipeout of Slavs and Jews and the subjugations of other non-aryans.
If I were a moderator, I would not think very long about whether Ozone stays or goes.
I spoke with Ozzy the other day about our mutual interest in Nordic and Celtic language and culture… he tells me that he’s started a book on Norse Sagas and mythology, and wants to learn Breton to reconnect with his heritage - which doesn’t seem to be in perfect harmony with praising Golden Dawn and etc…
So, I agree with Paule, debating (feeding) is perfectly viable - Ozzy is obviously very smart but in an environment of some sort which encourages these political views.
I’m generally against censorship - but I think there is a line. For me that line is when people openly call for acts of violence against either individuals or groups of people. It’s one thing to say “I hate group X”, but in my opinion it’s another thing to say “we should kill group X”.
@Steve
I’ll delete my comments for the sake of this community and for the sake of the lingq crew. I guess I don’t have the U.S. Constitution’s FREEDOM of speech on the web or even out in public. Always get beat down with Propaganda and must imprison how I feel in a sinking world of chaos.
Paule89 said :“Debating them could challenge their views, while deleting their posts just reinforces that “these ignorant people can´t stand the truth”-feeling…”
Ozzy said “…I guess I don’t have the U.S. Constitution’s FREEDOM of speech on the web or even out in public. Always get beat down with Propaganda…”
That´s exactly what I meant. Censoring doesn´t change views, it strenghtens them. The question is: do we allow Ozzy to write whatever he wants and challenge (maybe even change) his views? Or do we censor him because it´s “plain human decency”?
I know, but you´ve been posting “offensive stuff” for weeks and I don´t expect that to change. Besides that, I think it´s a discussion worth having in general.
PS: Ozonefilms’ posts disappeared, too. What a coincidence.
@Ozzy - Instead of focussing on how bad the world is, have you considered doing some sort of meaningful community service eg. for the poor, disadvantaged, elderly, orphans etc? Opening your heart up to others will do wonders for you.
Consider if you have a skill, a smile, or time on your hands that you can give to enrich someone else’s life, less fortunate than you. You can make a difference through kindness.