Ling says my lesson has 1 new word but it does not!

That problem I see a long time ago. I just used to press F5 to refresh the screen when I`m near the end of the lesson to see the real situation with “new words” that remain.

And I have some notice about this site.
I like it, but I do not understand if there is a problem to make some test about sites working. It is not good that LingQs members do the tests.

@all - We have had some reports of this in the past, but have not successfully been able to reproduce the issue. Have any of you come across a way in which you ran replicate this issue? If you notice this issue with additional lessons, please let us know any additional information you can provide, such as:
-Did you study the lesson over multiple sessions?
-Were you using keyboard shortcuts or clicking with the mouse?
-Did you notice the New Words number go out of sync at any point during the lesson?

With your help hopefully we’ll be able to figure out what is causing this!

I too have noticed this from time-to-time. No big deal as far as i’m concerned.

M

@alex, typically I do study lessons over multiple sessions, I typically always click the mouse, I typically do not look at the new word number while studying a lesson.

I have also noticed (in this lesson) that the number of unknown lingQ’s indicated in the information window does not correlate with the actual number of unknown lingQ’s in the lesson. There are more in the lesson than on the info page.

@ alex - I worked it out! (it turns out I didn’t work it out, but I did find another error)

Here is a screencast where I reproduce the issue.

I start by importing some text from one of Vera’s German lessons that has no new words for me into a new lesson. However, I add three nonsense words to the lesson that I know will count as new words on my account. When I save and open the lesson, the lesson indeed has three new words, as it should. I then go back into the lesson editor page and remove those three nonsense words and reopen the lesson. You can see that the number of known words at the top of the dashboard is correct (i.e. 0), but in the other part of the dashboard, it says that I have 3 new words. This is the issue I reported recently on this thread.

I then go to the ‘My Lessons’ page and you can see that I am told that the lesson has three new words. It would seem that when a lesson is first imported, there is a word list made somewhere for use on the website to do calculations such as the number of new words in a lesson. However, when the lesson is edited, this list is not updated.

The lesson where ‘pmilone’ found one new word more than there should be must have had one more word when it was first uploaded than it does now. The person who shared it must have edited it.

@Collin, FYI, it is a private lesson that I myself uploaded and I have never edited it.

@Alex

For my own curiosity I tried a couple of things…

  1. I created a new lesson with the same imported text. The new lesson showed no new words.
  2. I cut the text out of the lesson I’m having trouble with, then pasted back in the identical text from the original source. This did not fix the issue.

It appears that the problem is with the learn page not the lesson page.

Oh. Well in that case, I didn’t work it out, though what I reported is a separate bug that gives very similar results.

I have one more idea. Notice that the word ‘felicissimo’ is shown in the dashboard when you open the lesson. I have done a bit of testing, and it seems that when one opens a lesson, if there are no new words, the dashboard shows the list of LingQs, if there are multiple new words, the dashboard shows the list of new words, and when there is only one new word, the dashboard shows that new word. Maybe there is something up with that particular word. What if you deleted just that word from the lesson you are having trouble with (given the error I showed in my last post, this may appear not to work, even if that word is the bad apple)?

Do you still have the original source of the text? Maybe the text contained a hidden character in this one word that is being recognised by the part of the website and not another. I am just speculating now.

Hmmm…

Now it’s fixed on the learn page when the course is opened but not on the learn page when the course is closed.

http://screencast.com/t/hZzEBUtND

@ColinJohnstone - It looks like the New Words number is being cached (presumably to speed up loading). It probably makes sense to update this number whenever the lesson is edited in order to make sure it is up to date. That may then fix the issue noted above.

@pmilone - Thanks for the screencasts, it seems that the course is also caching the New Words number. We’ll take a closer look into what is going on here to make sure these numbers are accurate!

@ Alex

Shirley it’s a list of words being cached and not a new word number. However this does not appear to be the cause of pmilone’s problem. I have had this problem for a few texts too.

Hi Alex, just to show you what I mean about there being a list, here is another screencast.

In this one, I create a new lesson on my German account with some text that has no new words for me, and I add at the end the words ‘thisisnotawordone’ and ‘thisisnotawordtwo’. I open the lesson and then go back to editing it and remove these two words. I then open the lesson again and you can see the problem as I have already described with the website telling me there are two new words in the lesson. I then make a new lesson with these words and set ‘thisisnotawordtwo’ to known, and you can see that the number of known words that the website says I have in the lesson goes down to one.

I guess this list is created for each lesson to save the website from having to calculate it all the time, and the only bug is that it is not updated when the lesson is edited. This means that there will be a large number of lessons out there with out of date lists.

@ColinJohnstone - Yup, you’re right. I ended up poking around a bit further on Friday and found that this was one specific number being cached and only seems to be an issue when editing the lesson. We’ve now got this on our list and will fix it when we get a chance :slight_smile:

This was fixed but is happening again.

@pmilone

I do not think they had time to fix the problem .It is still present.

j:-)

@Alex
Today I new problem appears: when I click on the last blue word in a lesson It becomes immediately yellow and disappears before I can write the translation.

j:-(

@pmilone - As far as I know there hasn’t been a fix released yet, but we are still aware of the issue and it’s on our list!

@jolanda - Did this only happen with one lesson?

@Alex
in 15-20 lessons! Spanish and English (today)

@jolanda - OK, we’ll get this fixed!