Broken Streak - Even when used every day

Disabling the streak messaging and ignoring streak is your best option right now. Adding an option to entirely remove streaks is not something we’re going to provide any time soon. It would require too many interface changes.

Consistency is a hugely important part of language acquisition. Streaks are a way to encourage consistency. And coins are how streaks are measured and are further used to measure overall activity. You can ignore all of it, if you don’t find them useful.

I would encourage you guys to leave a feature request about disabling the streak and encourage others to vote on it: Feature Requests | LingQ

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My issue with the coins and streaks is that it does not encourage good learning practices, and there are far too many bugs.

For example, revising is extremely useful. It reinforces vocabulary and grammar, and gives the learner a measure of progress as it should be easier a few weeks or months later. However, whenever I revisit a lesson, I get no new words. So the scoring system punishes me. LingQ thinks I don’t gain new words by revising, which is not the case,

Secondly, if I mark LingQs in a German lesson, I often end up with negative known words. So LingQs just don’t work, for me at least, and I don’t use them.

As for coins, they are weird, sometimes after a few minutes with a German lesson I’ve achieved my quota, sometimes it takes a lot longer.

Lastly, if I watch an imported YouTube film in French, I get zero rewards. I’ve lost a streak several times despite spending one hour listening. To correct this, I have to go to the line view, then manually move through each line, starting at the beginning, until I reach my current location. This is unbelievably tedious. The problem is that watching an imported YouTube video does not advance the current location in the transcript. That also causes countless other issues e.g. switch to another app, then switch back, and the video goes back to the starting location, not the current one,

And you recently broke the line view scrolling. If I repeatedly use a finger to push the page left, so as to move to the next lines, it now scrolls an unpredictable number of lines ahead, sometimes way more than needed. It used to be one finger scroll to advance one line.

I’m using an iPad with the latest iOS if that is significant.

@LeifGoodwin I’ll try to address all of your points.

Bugs - please report when you come across a bug.

Revisiting lessons - This is a good point and something we should somehow build in to the reward system.

“if I mark LingQs in a German lesson, I often end up with negative known words” - Can you elaborate? You mean words were marked known but than you LingQ them, so the lesson nets in a loss of known words? How does that lead to LingQs not working for you?

" sometimes after a few minutes with a German lesson I’ve achieved my quota, sometimes it takes a lot longer." - There is a system for how coins are rewarded: 1 coin for 10 words of reading, 1 coin for 36 seconds of listening, 1 coin x the value of a word for creating a LingQ, 1 coin x the value of a word for increasing the status of a LingQ, 5 coins x the value of a word for moving blue words to known. So if you have a lot of high value words in a lesson or you move a bunch of new words to known, then you will hit your goal faster.

“I’ve lost a streak several times despite spending one hour listening.” - THis should earn you 100 coins. If your goal is set to 200 or 400, then you wouldn’t have reached it. If listening to the video is not earning you coins at a rate of 1 coin every 36 seconds, then that is a bug that needs to be investigated and fixed.

“The problem is that watching an imported YouTube video does not advance the current location in the transcript.” - Right, this is because of the function that advancing in page mode, moves blue words to known. But actually, on iOS, you can tap and hold the text in Karaoke Mode and it will take you to that sentence in sentence mode. Try that out.

“If I repeatedly use a finger to push the page left, so as to move to the next lines, it now scrolls an unpredictable number of lines ahead, sometimes way more than needed.” - Thanks, I’ve created an iOS bug report for this.

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I have done, and serious bugs are not fixed, I reported the one below about video mode not updating the current line location ages ago, it’s still present. I guess the staff think it’s not a bug. Perhaps I have to use the app in the approved manner, rather than how I want to use it, who knows. There are other very serious bugs that I have reported such as the current line in video mode not visible, and that’s not been fixed. It can make it unuseable.

There’s not much to say. I go through a German lesson, a 15 minute YouTube video say, and if I mark LingQs, I often end up with a negative word count. So I don’t mark LingQs. I have no knowledge of the internal workings of the app.

In general I find that LingQ seems to massively overestimate how quickly I learn words, maybe I have a poor memory.

I think you misunderstand. If I listen to a 40 minute video (which takes one hour as I look up some words), and do so in line mode i.e. I manually play each line, I get a high number of coins and known words. If instead I listen in video mode, then I get very few coins, and maybe very few known words, I am not sure about that. That is why I lose a streak in video mode. If I want to get the full correct coin count, I have to open the line mode. When I do that, I see that the green line does not extend to my current position in the video. It is where it was when I opened LingQ. Let’s say when I open LingQ I am at line 500 and after watching a video I am at line 1000. In that case I have to move the line mode back to the end of the green line at line 500, then manually swipe left, working through each line until I reach my true current location which is line 1,000. Then everything is kushtie. This in my view is a bug, as in French I have no interest in line mode, except if I want to copy a phrase or check a word. Having to needlessly manually swipe through hundreds of lines is incredibly tedious. LingQ should automatically advance the green line when in video mode.

This also has another consequence which is so serious that I often wonder if it’s worth using LingQ. If I am in video mode, I started LingQ at line 500, I am now watching at line 1,000 and I decide to check a word using an external dictionary. So I task to another app. Then I task back to LingQ, and restart the video, it will automatically move back to the very start of the video. This drives me crazy, it’s a serious and fundamental bug. If I haven’t recorded my last location, it can take me ages to refind it. Yes I have reported this ages ago, yes it’s still there.

Yes I’m aware of that, that’s not the problem. See earlier comments.

FYI this is using the app on an iPad.

Hello @zoran,

My streak was also broken.
I only used Lingq via the mobile app this weekend as I could not use it from my computer. Today I realized that my streak was broken. Can you help me get it back? Also regarding the mobile app issue, is there any action needed on my part to resolve the sync issue?

I’m not sure what you mean by negative word count. Like -3 Known Words Added? It sounds like this happens because you create LingQs from words that were previously marked known.

You earn more coins in page or sentence mode than in karaoke mode, because of coins earned from creating lingqs and marking words known. You can’t do that in karaoke mode, and this don’t earn coins for that. It’s not a bug, just how karaoke mode works. You can make a feature request for changing how karaoke mode works, and if others are interested it will increase the chances we do it.

So you are saying that if you are in karaoke mode and then switch to a different app, but keep the lesson in LingQ open, when you come back to LingQ, the video starts back from the beginning? Or you mean that you close the LingQ app entirely, and then it starts back from the beginning?