Many people don’t understand the difference between “premium” and “premium+.” What will we lose by staying premium (if we decide to stay, which isn’t certain), what amazing benefits will we get with premium+, when we were very happy with premium??? I don’t understand the point of premium+ in my case; for now, the “benefits” you’ve mentioned are of no interest to me…
Thank you for your answers, but personally, I don’t understand much, sorry! I find your answer nice, but too imprecise to know what I’ll find interesting about staying premium. Moreover, the premium+ price is very exorbitant, and I don’t see any concrete benefits for me.
The overall impression is not very positive, or even rather negative: the people I’ve spoken to privately are disappointed, worried, and don’t understand what awaits them.
I thought LingQ was great so far; I doubt it will be of any use in the future until you’re more specific about what will be offered in the surviving premium, and what useful benefits will be offered by Premium+.
Thank you in advance for your clarification. And above all, please let us know in time so we can decide whether to stay or not.
I confess, I don’t understand such an opaque and worrying marketing approach…
Since end of day we are trying to master a language, the most important thing to know is how much faster will premium+ make user learn a language, ideally with money back guarantee.
Premium + is almost 4 x more expensive, does it guarantees 4 times faster learning? Will I reach 2 million words read in 4 months?
Not a good business model… gate-keeping services that people paid for initially. They need to make AI simplification part of premium again. I understand why some people are mad about that.
I think the idea of the Premuim Plus started in this topic: Monthly Audio Transcript Limit . There some subscribers were requesting more audio transcript time for plus money.
Plus maybe in other topics where better AI voices have been requested. And I’m quite surprised how quick it (the new tier) has been introduced.
My opinion about it:
6x Audio Transcription: the 600 minutes/month in Premium is well enough for me so this is not for me.
Better AI-voices: I had the opportunity to listen to a pop-up sample and I was amazed how better the Premium Plus compared to the Premium one in French. However I can’t pay the price so I continue to listen to real French speach from real people in Youtube.
Advanced Lynx Chat: I’m quite happy with the current one, rarely use it, however. → Not interested yet.
And I have no idea in what detail can it be more advanced. Is it more quick? Does it speak dialects? Etc.
AI Simplified Lessons: I have no idea what this is as I don’t use it. → Not interested yet.
Hi everyone, let me try to explain the benefits of Plus plan for you and answer some questions you posted above.
As already mentioned above, the Plus plan includes everything from Premium and:
Increased transcription limit: 6x the monthly AI audio transcription limit of Premium (3600 vs 600 minutes) to create fully interactive lessons from podcasts and other audio sources. AI Voices: Lifelike AI voices via 11 labs for words, sentences, lessons and Lynx chat for an enhanced listening experience Lynx Plus: The smartest version of Lynx AI chatbot with web search, an advanced AI model, response style options, AI voices and more. AI Simplify Lessons: Generate simplified versions of LingQ lessons with AI to get into more interesting content sooner in your language learning journey.
I understand your concerns regarding Plus plan price, however, the only reason we introduced this plan is because we want to give users option to use these advanced options, which all cost us money, and we need to charge extra for them. If you don’t feel like you want or need these AI features, you can just remain on regular Premium plan and continue using the site as you did so far.
@davidinla Plus plan is now available on web version only for now and will soon be available on app versions too.
Releasing this plan in response to complaints about the voices is comically tone deaf. People wanted some better voices to replace the current robotic options, not the most expensive TTS money can buy rolled into a separate subscription.
I paid $200 for Migaku lifetime and got unlimited access to the azure neural voices and unlimited whisper transcription for 10 different languages.
To call your current offering uncompetitive is an understatement.
I cannot believe that the very useful comment above with more than 11 likes got hidden… rafaelhmay, just know that you are a massive help, thank you once more! Idk what those two comment above are about … SMH…
you dont have to repeat your comments, if you post multiple times the same comments like you did that is spam, i also have simular frustrations with you and they should be voiced, just don’t repeat the same comment
For all that matters, I don’t think that your comments are spam and actually it gives a lot of helpful ways for those of us that are willing to boost their language learning with different methods that one does not necessarily need to pay for, but that one can access freely so, thank you for that once again
You are spamming. Massively. But I’m happy you created a topic for that so those interested in the workarounds can find a way with your instructions to save some money.
are you staff member?
I can ask things like these: Are you from one of the competitors to discredit Lingq?
I respect your unsatisfaction, to a certain point. Maybe agree with some of your points. You should also respect that there are people (like me) who hates hysteria and mass redundancy when discussing issues of Lingq.
This argumentation makes sense for features that got added newly, or any sort of lifting of limitations of existing features (increased transcription limit, 11 labs AI voices and Lynx Plus).
However, simplifying lessons via ai has been part of LingQ for quiet a while now, and people who subscriped to LingQ or renewed their suscription did so under the assumption that it was part of it. By locking this feature behind Premium+ you are actually removing a feature those people have already paid for.
I am not sure whether it is a wise decision on the long run if you leave the impression that any feature people who sign up pay for may be moved behind the next paywall just because you feel in the mood to do so.
I think Obsttorte’s comment is very pertinent.
LingQ’s evolution over time seems normal to me, but what is disturbing is the monolithic aspect of the change brought about by Premium+, with a considerable price increase and the impression that we are losing features that we had and, it seems to us, paid for.
Would it be possible to offer options for each new feature, so that everyone could choose what they really find useful and pay according to their choice? Personally, I am not against paying for an additional service that offers real added value for me, but I do not want to:
lose a service that I had and thought I had paid for
pay a lot of money for a package of different services when only some of them would be useful to me.
Finally, once LingQ’s management team has finalised its policy on new services (with or without à la carte options), it would be nice to have a clear, detailed written commercial proposal. Then users will be able to make an informed decision based on reliable information: - to remain Premium if the quality remains high, - or to choose whether or not to subscribe based on the options and contracts offered, - or to leave if the service that is within their financial means is no longer of sufficient quality.
Thank you in advance, @zoran, for letting us know what will be decided by LingQ’s management, > if possible, before the next contract renewal period.
And if this decision is not clearly presented within that time frame, those who are unable to remain should be allowed to cancel their registration (with a refund), outside the usual period.
Thank you for all your past and future responses.
@BlueBird14 I don’t really understand your point here. I am sure it’s already pretty much clear what the Plus plan offers and what the difference is compared to a Premium plan. Premium plan still works as before and users who purchased Premium will keep all features they subscribed for.
It’s unlikely, at least in the near future, that purchasing each option separately will be possible. Maybe one day.
