Title. We had it before. I don’t see why we lost it.
I asked our team to look into this and see what can be done.
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Thank you
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What are you seeing that’s different? I just tried in Android and on Web and seems to behave as I remembered. If I click on a word in the sentence I’m interested and then go to sentence view, it brings me to that sentence in the sentence view. I back out, click on a word from a different sentence and click sentence view. I’m now on the new sentence.
Are you seeing the issue intermittently? Did you do something different than what I described above?
This only works if “page moves unknown words to known” is unchecked. Otherwise, it won’t. I assume this is because in sentence view moving to the next sentence is dealt like moving to a new page, so all blue words of that sentence are marked known.
@JeremyBrunette Do you have that setting enabled?
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I tried both Chrome and iOS and clicking a word in any sentence and then “sentence mode” always opens that sentence whether “Paging moves to known” is turned on or off.
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Interesting. I do have the setting unchecked, but sounds like from Mycroft test it may not matter. Unless OP is using android and that is behaving differently than the others. I may try later if I get a chance.
If I click the sentence I want it moves it to that sentence,… sometimes. Most of the time it chooses whichever sentence it wants. So I touch the past sentence and it just moved it to the second sentence.
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@JeremyBrunette We can’t reproduce the issue here. If “Paging moves to Known” option is disabled, whenever you select a word in a page mode and switch to a sentence mode, it does show a sentence the word is in. Are you sure you have paging moves to known disabled? If so, can you please provide example lesson/sentence?
I don’t understand why anyone would ever have that setting checked unless they already have a lot of experience in a language and they are trying to get LingQ to catch up. I guess they put it on by default because otherwise people wouldn’t know it exists for the small group that would want it.
I recorded a video but it doesn’t let me post it. Gone me an email and I’ll send it.
As for links, I’m in android app. I don’t know where to find links.
Really? You’ve prevented me from posting even though I’m a paying customer and you are providing a faulty product?
Because Spanish has many words similar to English
I personally had it disabled at first, but turned it on after a while. I learn Korean and Japanese. Both languages are highly agglutanive and thus each word comes in a variaty of different forms (what LingQ considers individual words). I usually only create definitions for the first two or three versions I come across for efficiency sake, unless the suggested definitions are useful.
In Japanese, the word splitting algorithm and the fact that I cannot manually split or merge words makes things even worse, creating tons of additional artifical word fragments I don’t need definitions for.
In the end it is a matter of personal workflow, which, for me, has changed over time. I use LingQ in combination with google dictionary and yomitan in my browser, the latter beeing by far the most useful.
Why do we have to have “Paging moves to Known” disabled in order to properly switch to the choosen sentence in sentence mode? This is, like a lot of other things in LingQ, very counterintuitive. The only reason I noticed it is because I enabled the option a while ago and noticed the change in behaviour relatively soon.
What seems to be the issue here? I want to fix the problem but I wont be able to if I cant reproduce. The conditions to bookmark a word and then have the sentence its in show as the current sentence displayed in sentence view is as follows ordered by priority:
- Tap on word.
- Listening to audio in page view, when it plays a sentence, the first word is bookmarked.
- On paging, the first word of the page is bookmarked.
This is done in attempt to switch to the sentence in sentence view that the user last had focus on. It might not be the best UX, so please help me understand if any of this is not working or if you have suggested tweaks to it.
If paging moves to known is disabled, this is as it should work. If its enabled, we only force that the sentence it switches to in sentence view is a valid one, meaning if its a sentence in the middle of several others with known words, it switches to the first one with known words. Otherwise it works the same as if its disabled.
The issue is that if “paging moves to known” is enabled, it will always switch to the first sentence that contains blue words in it, independent of which sentence the user has selected a word at. This is not what users may expect and doesn’t suit every workflow. I, for example, have the option enabled but I don’t mark every blue word as known or ignored that I come across, but leave them blue (which is what I am expected to do with the option enabled). This, however, means, that switching to sentence view for a particular sentence is no available option for me.
The UX doesn’t work properly for me. You describe the UX as functioning with “tap on word” as the primary factor determining which sentence is entered into when entering sentence view. It doesn’t work like that for me. I have a video of the problem.
Additionally, I don’t think LingQ has the right to choose what is a “valid” sentence for me. Sometimes I know all the words but the grammar is confusing for me. Sometimes the words have additional definitions. I would like to choose the sentence that I want.
Of course paging moves to known is enabled for me. I’m reading spanish. There are many many similar words between Spanish and english. Please let me choose the sentence that I want to read in sentence view.
Please send the video, if you are unable to share it directly here, use another sharing platform.
How do you propose to choose the sentence you want to jump to? This is as it always have worked. If there is a bug I will fix it. Please share the video. If you have suggestions for how to do it differently please do share them.
The reader should choose the sentence the currently selected word or phrase is at. If no such selection is made, some standard behaviour, like jumping to the first sentence of the page or the first sentence containing a blue word could apply. The behaviour should be independent from whether “pages moves to known” is enabled or not, which is what is currently messing up the functionality.
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