I get what you mean. I think if I was creating a lot of my own hints, I would not like using this device. The online dictionaries load quite fast and main problem for me is just how tedious typing on the eInk screen is. Since my language combinations (Russian and German using English as dictionary language) have lots of user hints, and I am happy just to rely on them, it is not really a problem for me.
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You missed 2 key points in your review that makes this Onyx Boox a dud!! I can’t highlight more than one word, ( I was thinking that, I will do the highlighting on my PC and just do the flashcard review on the Boox…“WRONG” When I do a flashcard review and go back to the lesson, it goes back to the beginning of the lesson each freakin time, I then have to forward the pages to where I left off! These 2 issues make the Boox a complete and utter fail, ( when using it with LingQ, which is why I purchased it)!! I will update this thread if things change.
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The boox is a huge hit in the webnovel reading chinese community since it works with Readibu / Pleco (heavenly path website has a good write up if anyone wants to know more - Notion – The all-in-one workspace for your notes, tasks, wikis, and databases.)
I bought one and tried it out, it’s cute and fun (i got the Poke 4 Lite, which is small enough to fit in a large pocket) but i’m putting it aside until I’m weaned off of LingQ.
To me, LingQ works best on PC when using a mouse, and I can’t stand finger tapping that many words and highlighting - too slow (and the load times are awful).
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I have not been able to reproduce this bug on my device. When I am on a page, then do a flashcard review and then go back to the lesson (by selecting the X at the top left), it goes back to the page I was on. That’s at least what has happened in my tests.
We should try to look at this objectively and avoid catastrophising. An annoying bug, if present, on a somewhat unimportant side feature of one app does not make the device a dud.
“I was thinking that, I will do the highlighting on my PC and just do the flashcard review on the Boox”
I don’t think an eInk device is a good choice for reviewing flashcards. I would do it the other way around, i.e. read on the Boox and review flashcards on another device (PC or smartphone). I am wondering, when you write “highlighting on my PC”, are you reading the texts or just saving unknown words?
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Creating links ( new word and words). Creating links is to slow and creating more than one word ( links) seems to be VERY difficult. As you said (by selecting the X at the top left), it goes back to the page I was on." For people following this thread “DON’T” use the “back to lesson” button / link " as you would on a PC, use the “X at the top left”. I’m finding the Boox to be very unimpressive while using LingQ. I will continue to create links on my PC and “try” to use my Boox to read and review.
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Finding the same thing = “To me, LingQ works best on PC when using a mouse, and I can’t stand finger tapping that many words and highlighting - too slow (and the load times are awful).”
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“For people following this thread “DON’T” use the “back to lesson” button / link " as you would on a PC, use the “X at the top left”.”
Which button were you pressing? I have not found a “back to lesson” button anywhere when reviewing vocabulary and I have not found anyway to replicate this bug. Bugs like this should be reported to the devs, maybe with a post on the support forum. I would guess this bug is the same on all Android devices but I don’t have an Android phone or tablet to test that.
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Personally I don’t like as much using LingQ on the PC with a mouse and keyboard so much because I don’t like looking at a bright screen and I don’t like sitting at a computer while studying. I like walking around in my living room with a light device in the hand. A normal tablet is better for me, but the bright screen is also uncomfortable so the eInk tablet is a godsend.
Interacting with lots of words is always a lot of effort, and it’s of course easier with a mouse and keyword then with a tablet. It’s also easier and faster with a normal tablet (e.g. iPad) than with an eInk device. However, my device is still fast enough (much faster than reading on the LingQ website when I first joined in 2012) so the advantages for me far outweigh the disadvantages.
As I wrote elsewhere, I think such devices are good for people who just want to import eBooks and comfortably read them through once while looking up unknown words without wanting to interact with the text too much (e.g. saving tons of sentences) or review vocabulary with flashcards. People who do want to thoroughly go through texts, looking up and saving phrases, studying vocabulary, reviewing sentences and pages, etc. would not want such a device. In this sense, it is the same as eInk readers in general. A Kindle is great for reading a novel from start to finish, but it’s not good for studying technical documents in detail.
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Honestly, I still don’t find the button. Here is what I see at the end of reviewing flashcards within a lesson.
When I scroll down to the bottom of the page, I still don’t see a button labelled “back to lesson”. The button labelled “Close” appears to do the same as the X at the top.
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As far as I 'm concerned the Nova Air C is unusable with LingQ, ( at least the way I use LingQ). Creating more than a one word link is not worth the effort, ( takes too much time). Creating or editing a one word link takes too much time. I find using my iphone to be much more efficient, only problem is I prefer not to use my iphone while using LingQ, i just did it for a comparison ( except for the audio playlist which I use when I go for a walk). I have given up trying to make the Nova Air C work while using LingQ, back to my language studies on my PC! Waste of money and time!
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“As far as I 'm concerned the Nova Air C is unusable with LingQ, ( at least the way I use LingQ).”
The bit in parentheses is very important since this device is far from unusable with LingQ. I have read a load of books on it already and the only thing that I have found doesn’t work properly is the saving of phrases (i.e. multiple words) which is very difficult to do when the phrase is spread over multiple lines, but works well when only on one line.
I hope you can sell the device or return it. I think Onyx Boox has a decent return policy. It’s something I looked into when I got mine because I didn’t know if it would work well and they are very expensive.
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Has availability for the Lingq been removed on Android e-ink tablets?
I got a Boox Go 10.3 today, and I am sad to see that I have a message that it is unavailable on the device.
Are there any plans to make it available?
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Are you trying to use the app or the web version? From what I have heard, people are using the web version lingQ on their e ink devices.
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I have a grey and. White Boox air2 plus.
I use Lingq in sentence mode on Chrome or Firefox.
I use a customised external macro keyboard.
I find it crazy the app does not go to the next sentence, play audio and show translations. That is the main way to do comprehensible input.
I love he eink screen to save my eyesight.
Distinguishing blue and yellow words etc is difficult. I care little and put on the option to show non known words.
This all lets me read 3000 words a day efficiently. A million words a year. My Greek needs that and It is working.
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Does the web version work. Better for shortcuts anyway.
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Hi! Please tell more about this external macro keyboard. I would love to understand your workflow.
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Thanks for the suggestion to use the browser. Thats the beauty of Android available on a device like this!
Initial thoughts:
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- I looked around and saw there is an e-ink optimized web browser called EinkBro: EinkBro: possibly the best web browser for e-ink devices (ft. Boox Note Air) (youtube.com)
- Looks like to install it, you have to install an APK repository called F-Droid. I searched and installed F-Droid from another browser then searched for EinkBro.
I initially had dark mode on, so it was hard to make out the lesson selection. So I changed the setting to system (you can also use Light).
Lesson looks good enough for me:
With a little focused recognition you can figure out what is new and what is Lingq 1
But I don’t see much difference with 2 and 3. 4 I can see the underline. If I had opted to by the Note Air 3 C intead, it would look better since that has color. But here it is on the Go 10.3:
It would be really good to be able to use a native app. I understand that lesson cover pictures will not universally look great on there, but it would be nice. And I think New+1-5 can be designed for e-readers or monochrome screens.
But I won’t hold my breath on it being available any time soon in the app store. Not sure if there is enough demand for this.
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While I do not use LingQ on my pocketbook, I saw these posts quite some time ago, you might find these useful:
You can make LingQ monochrome with those.
That would be great, LingQ team already made new “themes”, so monochrome option is not out of the question I guess
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Unfortunately, the web version doesn’t seem to load at all on my Kindle. A disappointment (although with a Kindle, I knew to expect trouble using external services).
A bluetooth keyboard and mouse’ app on a second device is easiest to set ip. One button on the screen can be set up to
Shift arrow _ to the next sentence
Shift t - translate
A or s for recorded or computer audio
All 3 things can be one click.
I use an Ebay 4x4 keypad and sayo software. see another post by me.
Logitech 604 mouse butons can be programmed.
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