That’s the question… the holy Graal of any language learner…
I recently changed my way of learning vocabulary, especially for my Dutch studies. Now I spend more time listening over and over again the same content and realize I remember better and convert this vocabulary way more easily into active one rather than before. I generally listen 20 times to the same lesson, I read it several time but not so much.
I don’t save as many words as other people on Lingq simply because I only put into “know” a word I really know. So right now I see 5000 words in Dutch and I know I really know 5000 words, there is no stuff I still have to study. Since I mainly work with textbooks that I then put into Lingq, this make my lingqin’ rythm a bit slower.
I don’t know if we ever can develop active vocabulary without being in a situation of having to speak regularly.
I think it is possible in case you study a language very close to your own, I might be very able to develop a lot of active vocabulary in Spanish or Portuguese since I am native French-speaker… but I doubt this is really possible in more complex languages. Sometimes our ability to remember and use words is helped by the fact this vocabulary is close to our own.
I think in the case of a more complex language, you will always have somehow to be in a situation of speaking a lot if you want to create active vocabulary.
Once I read an interesting sentence over here (I think from Steve) and I totally agree with it : “If you want to be efficient at one particular language activity, you need to practice that particular activity”.
This is for reading, listening, speaking… It seems simplistic that way, but it is true. If you wanna develop a lot of active vocabulary and speak well, you need to practice speaking. You can help it to a certain extent by reading and listening, but you’ll always need to get back to speaking at some point.
I realized thinking about it that all languages that I was able to speak fluently even before going to the country through a passive learning were languages close to my mother tongue.
I could speak fluently english before going to the UK, because so much content is close to French, the same for Italian… However, for languages that are more complex and less related to French, I couldn’t develop the same technique (Dutch, Hungarian,…).
In terms of words… I do believe that in most European languages, once you master the 10,000 words, you are passively fluent. You reached a level when you understand 90% of all that you read, and if you practiced listening along with it, you are normally able to understand the same amount of content. For all languages that I learned, I realized that generally, words I learn after the 10,000 target have often less impact on my ability to understand the whole. I mean that this is still useful, but it just don’t really need those words to feel comfortable and fluent in the language.
For example, I do not know how to say the following French words, “robinet”, “bocal”, “parterre”, “cartouche”, “boussole” in English. This is just an example, there are so many other I do not know.
However, I am fluent in English, I reached the level where I simply do not think to produce the language anymore, it just comes out of my mouth.
I could learn all of those words, I could spend my life extending my vocabulary in English, but I’m not that interested anymore, I just reached the ability to communicate efficiently and effortlessly, and to understand pretty much all that I hear and read. That was my goal, I reached it, so I went to the next language.
In the end, it’s all about what are your personal goals in learning that specific language. Some people might consider all words have the same value in learning, I personally don’t.
I think there is a group of around 10,000 words that you need to know well in order to be fluent. I think that speaking everyday helps you to master more of this core vocabulary and get it into active.
Getting in touch with native speakers and speak everyday makes a huge difference… You will then realize there is no real technique in how to get passive words into words. It’s just the repetition, the constant need to communicate that allows you brain to reinforces mental links and finally at some point you realize you use those words without efforts.
I don’t remember how I clearly did to learn so many Italian words. I don’t remember studying vocabulary, I don’t remember looking for words every day in the dictionnary. But I remember well that I lived with Italians, that every day I asked how to say this and that, that every day I could speak better because my brain linked new words with situations and because of this constant exposure, I became fluent.
The same way, I learned for years Dutch vocabulary at school and never made it even close to be fluent because I never practiced speaking.
Many people will have many different opinions… but I think to develop real active vocabulary once you have a significant passive one, there is only one way : go out there and find native people to talk with and hang out (or if you’re single, marry one :P)