FSI finally updates their website to hopefully stop being misquoted

It seems the U.S. Foreign Service Institute finally got fed up of people misquoting their estimates of how long it takes to learn a language and updated their website (the Internet Archive records this change occurred at the end of January 2025). Now they clearly state on their main Foreign Language Training page the typical weekly hours of self-study.

https://www.state.gov/foreign-service-institute/foreign-language-training

Quote (emphasis mine):

The following language learning timelines indicate the time usually expected for a student to reach an integrated score of 3 (Speaking + Listening) on the Interagency Language Roundtable (ILR) scale, though the actual time can vary based on several factors, including the language learner’s natural ability, prior language-learning experience, and time spent in the classroom. A typical week is 23 hours per week in class and 17 hours of self-study.

Category I Languages: 24-30 weeks (552-690 class hours)

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Category II Languages: Approximately 36 weeks (828 class hours)

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Category III Languages: Approximately 44 weeks (1,012 class hours)

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Category IV Languages: 88 weeks (2200 class hours)

We can use this information to estimate the total number of hours spent learning to reach their decent level of fluency and pass the exams.

Language category Approx. classroom hours Approx. self-study hours Approx. total study hours
I 552 - 690 ~408 - 510 ~960 - 1,200
II 828 ~612 ~1,440
III 1,012 ~748 ~1,760
IV 2,200 ~1,320 ~3,520

Edit: Those studying the category IV languages probably have a typical week with a higher proportion of classroom hours than the other categories. If you assume a standard 40 hours of study per week (as they already have), for 88 weeks, this is 3,520 hours. The ratio between the stated classroom hours and this indicates that the typical week for category IV language students is 25 hours in class and 15 hours of self-study. This would mean 1,320 hours of estimated self-study in the above table. You could’ve just came up with these same estimates for the other categories by just multiplying the number of weeks by 40 hours per week. I updated the above table to reflect this.

This is obviously a rough estimate, as the FSI clearly states.

For instance, the FSI estimates it takes approximately 30 weeks to learn Spanish, which is approximately 1,200 total study hours following our above estimate. However, one report of someone who did the FSI Spanish course passed the exams in 24 weeks, but with higher levels of self-study, resulting in their estimate of approximately 1,300 hours of total study.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Spanish/comments/wqusu3/24_wks_1300_hrs_of_spanish_at_fsi_what_ive_learned/

The Internet has been plagued with misinformation and misquoting of the FSI on how long it takes to become fluent in a language. It’s a welcome update to the main page of the Foreign Language Training section of the FSI website.

This confirms the simple rule of thumb of doubling the FSI classroom hour estimates to get a rough idea of the total study hours required to reach a solid level of fluency in the desired language for monolingual native English speakers.

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8hrs per day (total study) if 5 days of study per week (40hrs).
24-30 weeks would be 6-7 months.

Do they do anything more in the language outside of the study time eg. reading books, watching movies, consuming content and etc. ?

Some people do, for sure. The report by someone who did the FSI Spanish course I linked above mentioned:

Day to day, FSI expects you to spend 4-5 hours in class and 3-4 hours self studying. In practice it’s really more like 3-6 hours self study after class each day with another 3-10 hours on the weekend.

Having done language courses myself (not at the FSI), how much above and beyond self-study depends on the individual. Some people do zero extra while others do a lot.

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Is the time required for English learners to learn Chinese the same as the time required for Chinese learners to learn English?

The question is how “decent” decent fluency is in this or that context (depending on the context, fluency may not be enough at all).:slight_smile:

Besides, passing a language exam is one thing, but interacting in real life with fast-paced, sloppy, etc. native speakers over an extended period of time is another.

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Yep, I agree. I’m up to between 1,500 to 2,000 hours in Italian and reading a paper book isn’t an easy task (it’s possible, but with lots of unknown words). I wouldn’t be comfortable going to university to study history or law or the classics, for sure. However, at 960 hours, I had everyday conversations at parties and had friends entirely in Italian. I wouldn’t have been able to discuss politics or philosophy or such things as I hadn’t done much in these domains.

The FSI only reports on data for monolingual native English speakers. I wouldn’t suspect it to be exactly symmetrical, but it is probably a good goal to aim for and see how it is when you arrive there.

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Porta dos fundos is a famous fast paced janky slang filled youtube comedy channel in brazil that has been my benchmark since i started, i wonder if the fsi competency level is closer to getting something like this or just straight forward news broadcasts….i have friends who dont speak english and have been comfortably conversational/reading non philosphical type stuff for years but am still not quite there

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It’s always bugged me when people say things like, “You need this many hours to master a language” or “You need X hours to reach B2 or C1.” Sure, time matters, but that mindset totally ignores how you’re learning. The method is everything.

When I first started, I spent hours on flashcards and grammar drills, but honestly, I wasn’t getting anywhere. My listening skills were weak, and I could barely follow what I was reading. It all felt mechanical and disconnected.

Things changed when I began reading real texts while listening to them. I’d click on unknown words, check meanings, and whenever grammar confused me, I’d just ask ChatGPT or Grok. Once I ditched the endless flashcard reviews and focused on real input, my comprehension shot up. It was a complete game-changer.

Now, as an advanced German learner, I mostly read and listen to scientific articles — always with the audio on. That habit has pushed my understanding to a whole new level. Honestly, if more language institutions promoted this kind of approach or partnered with platforms that make it easy to do, I think it could revolutionize how people learn languages — making the whole process way more natural and effective

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Yeah, FSI’s approximate number of weeks/hours to pass their exam is referring to how long it takes at their language school, using their methods, on average. Whether or not a random single individual actually reaches so-called fluency using a different method is obviously a different story.

I’d argue that the use of the FSI numbers for us is not “the exact point at which you reach fluency,” but rather “a reasonable goal to set to motivate yourself and track your progress at which at the end you may have a decent level of language competence when you reach it.”

When you reach the goal, you can assess your language abilities, and decide from there.

Not everyone necessarily needs a goal in language learning per se, but there are certainly some who thrive with one, and some people might find such an hours-based goal suitable.

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People simply quoted what they wrote on their web page and unfortunately it was misleading. I’m glad they’ve clarified it now.

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