I’d say I was more psychologising than moralising…
You were lecturing us implying that people who did not share your views were irrational.
We can certainly have a discussion on censorship in general and whether it is irrational to place limits on the amount of sexually implicit material to allow in various situations, like, children’s television or children’s books, prime time television, or late night TV. Start a thread on it.
But I don’t think it is a matter of rationality but rather of tastes and standards which have more to do with emotions than reason. I judge that the comfort level of most users of LingQ is best served by not having eroticism on the site.
I’m personally not bothered by the restrictions on such material being in the libraries here. If someone wants to use it - the import feature is the solution.
The thing which bothers me is how people look down at others based on the words they use which they see to be crass and rude, seeing them as lowly human beings. That attitude, to me, is far more horrible than any sexuality and swearing.
Generally I’m against censorship, but this is Steve’s website so he has every right to stop people adding hardcore sexual content - the same way he has every right to ask visitors staying at his house not to swear or go nude, etc.
(I think there is perhaps a certain double standard in having slightly different rules for Spanish content, but hey…el Kaufhombre es loco…or whatever…! :-0)
Imy…people judge. It is in the nature of being human to have opinions and therefore to judge. We even judge people by how they dress. Here on this forum, our words are our only clothes. So be careful of what you wear to the forum.’
Steve said: “…our words are our only clothes. So be careful of what you wear to the forum”
Hmm…I guess if you extend THAT analogy then people could go nude here, in the sense that they could refrain from posting…!?
Or maybe the Calvados is doing funny things to my brain again!?
Schnaps…yeah… :-0
Yup, everyone judges. I don’t judge based on look or clothes; that’s something which is odd to me. I’m talking about the type of judging where one person considers the other to be inhuman almost, based on things which are truly, not so horrible. Some would make you believe that swearing is as heinous a crime as murder.
Of course, of course…give the market what it wants! I fully support your right to do what ever you wish with your property, I am only renting it and like a tenant I can only make suggestions.
I did not say that anyone who didn’t agree with me was irrational. I said
“I still agree that if you are trying to make Lingq child friendly that you shouldn’t put up sexual content. But only because it will provoke adults irrational prejudices and thus the kids may not be allowed to used the site”
Like I said, my parents would switch off the tv and for me this was irrational behavior and it did more harm then good. If it was rational they could have at least explained it using reason but they couldn’t.
Your above argument is simply an appeal to tradition. “It’s right because we have always done it.” As a businessman, sure, you must provide what the market wants but as an individual and a thinker questioning your societies standards is important and healthy.
You are calling the views of many adults here, including mine, “irrational prejudices”, as if you represent some new “rational truth”. Not so. There is nothing original in what you have to say, but it is not a position that I agree with.
You are implying that my views are dictated by commercial interests. Not so. You do not know that but just throw it out there as if it strengthens your argument in some way.
I do not agree with your views. But if you are so keen about the subject start a thread on the subject of censorship. This thread is specific to what we want at LingQ and that discussion is over.
I apologise for implying that your view are dictated from there. I still hold the claim that it is irrational since I am yet to see any actual evidence against it. However there are far more important issues in the world for me to understand so I won’t be making a thread.
There may be better places to start a revolution or conversation, in or about people’s attitudes towards erotica or nakedness, other than a language learning forum : /
Dignity is key.
An Austrian’s view: Don’t you have anything else to worry about? (Sonst haben’S keine Sorgen?)
:)))
I’m just wondering, what if the books of the French best-selling author Michel Houellebecq would be available here? Would they just not be available, because of the content and language he uses?
I think this is quite hypothetical since any modern best selling author’s work will not be free of copyright.
‘what if’ and ‘would be’ hint towards the hypothetical nature of the question. What would the answer be to that hypothetical question? That was a politician’s answer Steve. haha
I defer to the wisdom of our friend from the Alpine republic.
hahaha