I absolutely agree 1000000% with rwargas22.
Thank you
I love them all. But I have a preference for the easy ones,the happier ones. The ones who uses the realistic,natural method Like Steve,Luca,Moses,Richard etc. But I like also Pr. Arguelles.
I like all the youtube polyglots. Theyāve all got something a little different to throw into the mix. Some of them are trying to sell products/services, and some of them arenāt, but they all seem to be basically motivated to help others.
As for who is the best? Thatās so hard to say. Thereās the question of how many languages a person speaks, and then there is the question of how well the person speaks those languages. And thereās also the question of how much time theyāve spent learning their languages.
Stu Jay is extremely impressive. Itās really mind-blowing to hear somebody speaking a language like Thai the way he does. And he speaks these relatively unknown Indonesian languages. Richard is mind-blowing but his language are mostly European, IIRC. In the end, as with many things, I donāt think there is a clear best. It depends on what criteria you consider important.
As for Clugston, I donāt know him so I donāt want to speculate about him having less-than-praiseworthy motivations. But I find his evident strong dislike for youtube polyglots strange. His videos are somewhat incoherent, and I find them a little bit disconcerting.
Iāll dig this one from the past. I tried to interact with Clugston and talk about some of his ideas but he labeled me a troll because I donāt use my real picture online ā as if anyone really cares what I look likeā¦ I donāt understand Clugstonās obsession with titles. As someone with multiple academic degreesā¦ my employer only cares about my work and my results, not the degrees I hold. By his definition of a āmasterā BB King, Eric Clapton, or Mark Knopfler wouldnāt be considered exceptional musicians because they donāt hold degrees in music.
Wait, you mean thatās not you in your avatar picture?
I watch Clugstonās videos on YouTube. I watch many linguists and language-learners online. You know, the guy is right about one thing: the left/right brain modes of learning. What he doesnāt realize, though, (since I doubt heās ever used it), is that LingQ allows the user to learn in both ways. I just posted in another thread about how I began āprocessingā more Russian as meaningful content simply by listening to LingQ lessons; by āforgettingā the English definitions I learned and just listened. Of course I wouldnāt have understood them at all without a left-brain approach in the beginning; but effective, meaningful listening (at least for me) is largely a right-brain activity. (From what I understand about the different hemispheres of the brain, anyway.) You know, the thing Steve said that finally convinced me into using LingQ was the line, to paraphrase: āNo one can teach you a languageā. That doesnāt seem itās coming from a left-brain-centric philosophy at all, which Clugston often accuses LingQ of being. The beauty of LingQ, unlike Rosetta Stone (right-brain-centric) and, I suspect, academic study (left-brain-centric), is that itās well-balanced in this regard. That doesnāt make me a āsycophantā to anyone. Thatās just my opinion. And academia is full of opinions, which I know Christophe would mockingly disagree with.
Thanks Russophile, the problem we have at LIngQ is persuading people who are used to being taught by someone else, that they really have to just learn by themselves, and that LingQ provides a wide range of resources and functions , and a community, that make it easier to do that.
I sometimes have a hard time believing Clugston isnāt just an elaborate troll when I watch his videos. His pretentious behavior regularly reaches a cartoonish level of ridiculousness that is usually reserved for satirical comedy.
Stujayās talents are practically otherworldly. His mandarin isnāt mind-blowing to me since I lived in Taiwan for a long time, but neither is anybody elseās on this list. (Mike Campbell and Brendan Oākaneās are, though). But Stujay speaks a ton of SE Asian languages and has basically gotten Mandarin from its regional importance as a 2nd or 3rd language in Thailand, Indonesia, etc. His Thai is basically native from what everyone has told me.
I would bump Stujay up all the way to the top. I havenāt really heard much of Richard Simcott but Luca thoroughly impressed me and obviously Steve did too or I probably wouldnāt be posting on this site.
Only because Kato Lomb passed away
@Vincentd:
Exactly my thoughts! Iām interested in communicating with people, expanding my horizons and getting to know different cultures.
As a learning endeavor and as a matter of of interest, curiosity and breaking barriers, I just love learning languages.
As an odd kind of sport, based on silly measurements, āpolyglotismā is one of the lamest.
Where are you getting this information from? His Thai is near native, yes. Mandarin good, B2/C1, Vietnamese B1/B2. I think there are some videos with him speaking a decent amount of either Malaysian or Indonesian. Iāve seen very little evidence of his other languages, so Iām skeptical. Iāve never read much of his advice because itās so bad. Learn 3000 words in the first week? Who can do that? Is he an excellent polyglot? Yes. Does he belong near the top of that list? No.
Iād never heard of the guy, but then again I never got excited about the polyglot fad on youtube a few years ago. However, this is an interesting video in which he lists his proficiency in many languages (in Thai). Impressive indeed.
Iāve heard him speak a bunch of languages. He claims fluency in something like 16 languages and some skill in about 30 and nothing Iāve heard or seen from him makes me doubt it. You should at least be able to find some videos of him speaking other languages if you hunt. He did some multilingual interpretation on Thai TV using Cantonese and Hindi.
As for the learning 3k words in the first week, if you already speak half a dozen related languages, itās probably not that hard since you get most of them for free. The same would happen for Luca if he started on another Romance language!
Ironically our āalpha linguistā of the thread gives him the thumbs up and vouches for his Italian, Hindi, Urdu and proto-Thai! How often have you seen a video like this?
Ah here are some videos of him speaking some that are a bit harder to find him speaking on YouTube. Itās from 7 years ago, though. Heās improved since, especially the Mandarin, Vietnamese and Japanese. The 2nd part shows his estimation of his ability before the clips.
Bahasa Indonesian
Bahasa Malasian
Javanese
Danish
Swedish (very short)
Norwegian (very short)
Italian
Spanish
Hindi
Japanese
Vietnamese
Sign Language
Morse Code (lol)
Iāve seen all 4 of those videos, and many others. Again, very little proof of a high level in most of those languages. Itās not very hard to make yourself look good for a few seconds in a video; we see it all the time. Some people admit their level isnāt very high, some claim fluency, whatever that means.
Regarding the 3k words in the first week advice, itās just bizarre to me that anyone would actually defend that. I hope that special situation works out well for you.
Iām hoping for that experience when I get around to Korean. I majored in Japanese and then later spent years in Taiwan using Mandarin. Also I speak English fluently, which will be another source of loan words. Hopefully, Iāll get many thousands of words practically for free.
For now, Iām struggling with Thai.
I just came across Mr. Clugston today and was more than a little taken aback by his presentation and attitude. The fellow has some issues, I fear. His approach reminds me very much of some āfakeā martial arts instructors Iāve encountered over the years. Bluster, aggression, claiming āauthorityā and denigrating others in the same field is not the way to go. Happily the Net allows you to choose who you interact with or view ā¦ so I can simply steer a path away from him and continue to enjoy Steveās far more amiable and inclusive style.
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(Maybe Mr C deserves a break)