Announcing the New LingQ Reader

I mean that the option to display traditional characters existed long time ago. By the time you joined, it had long gone. When I was new here, years before you, people were complaing about the automated convertion of traditional into simplified and asked to restore the functionality that you now see pop up unexpectedly.

#2 was brought up as an issue by myself in beta testing and was dismissed.

That’s really unfortunate. I guess I could set the browser’s popup blocker to block popups from lingq.com. But if users have to go out of their way to block an undesirable feature, it’s just bad product design. However, I think it’s important to keep bringing these issues up. Something that was dismissed when a single user pointed it out, might not be dismissed if more people complain about it. Especially given how easy to implement the option to not show any dictionary really is.

It’s the utter resistance to changing things that are common sense which frustrate on here.

Being able to input your own definition straight away is a common sense feature. It shouldn’t need more than one person to point out this common sense to have it changed.

The way the LingQ team works is Steve and Mark use LingQ how they want to use it, and then design the platform around how they like to use it.

Everybody else then comes second and they will change from their desired method of using the system only if enough people make a big enough deal out of it.

It should also be pointed out that in beta testing it was made abundantly clear that the new changes have come about solely to try and draw in and retain new users.

Paging was made because new users were not understanding how to use the platform properly. The ‘not having a manual hint input box’ was explained away by the dictionary thing and by the fact that it could ‘confuse’ new users.

Any normal person with normal creativity skills would have simply put together a comprehensive how-to video aimed at children to show people how to use the site properly. Instead LingQ decided to completely revamp the entire thing, taking out things that current users like (like hover mode, which is no longer available, meaning you have to click every single word to see what it means if you don’t want to manually scroll through the text one word at a time with the arrow keys).

Awesome update. Excited that my favorite language learning tool got a face-lift.

Quick question: is it possible to still see your level? At the end of every lesson it used to say “Add x number of words to reach Advanced 2” for instance. I enjoyed the novelty of progressing through those

Funny you should mention that. I’ve read about this hover mode being a thing, however, in my year and a half of being a member, I have never witnessed so much a shred of evidence that there is such a thing implemented. Never. Unless I’m mistaken, it’s supposed to show you the meaning of a word when you hover your mouse over it. Never happened for me. Luckily for me, for Japanese there are browser plugins that do just that. I’ve been using one called Rikaichan, not just for Lingq but all the Japanese I encounter on the web. Of course, it’s not seamlessly integrated with Lingq, but it works very well anyway.
So I can’t really miss a feature that has never worked for me, the effects of which I’ve been achieving using an external tool. But I can understand that people would miss this feature (if there indeed ever was such a feature).

Well my preferred method is to go through a new text, define the words, then read later in hover mode where i can hover over any i’m not sure of.

This was swatted away with ‘well you can just do it a different way now instead’.

C’est la vie, i guess.

You don’t happen to have a screenshot of the mythical hover mode in action, do you? Because I still find myself doubting its existence :slight_smile:

Hover mode was the only mode that has existed when I came to LingQ :slight_smile:

Look here: Lesson Demo Video - YouTube

Wow that old version looked so simple and easy to use.

Sorry but…‘stay true to their core’? A lot of requests from established users were ignored in favour of bringing in things aimed at recruiting new members.

I’m pretty sure there is a list for the levels of each language. It’s different for different languages, too.

Yes, it was simple to use and I was very sad when it was changed. I would love to have it back. My daughter still prefers hover mode.

Thanks and glad you like it! Yes, we will gradually improve all the pages over the next few months or so. The mobile app is also being rebuilt from scratch for both iOS and Android. They are both in beta now and we hope to have them available in the next few months.

We also have some improvements coming in the “hand holding” area you mention for beginners.

Good suggestions for the Daily LingQs. We will improve these as well and look at those ideas. Stay tuned!

Glad you like the update.

  1. Yes, it would be nice to store the settings server side. We will do this over time. We have to figure out what to do when the last word becomes known or ignored. It is handy that the selection go to the next highlighted word but is awkward when that word is on the next page. It has nothing to do with the paging moving to known feature.

  2. This is available as a keyboard shortcut - h

  3. We have tried to reduce these as much as possible. But, in fact, the spaces still have to exist for us i’m afraid.

The Android app is significantly improved over how it was when you first tried it I’m sure. Many are happily using it now. Having said that, we are completely rebuilding it to match the new site and expect it to be much better when the new version is released later this fall.

Again, platyphylla, you can do this with the h key. I responded to you yesterday about this.

By the way, we used to embed dictionaries but more and more dictionaries prevent this so we had to go back to popups. Not our favourite solution either but one we’re stuck with I’m afraid.

Thanks for the tip, I hadn’t realized that this was the meaning of “page size”. Now the same lessons gets split into “only” 3 pages. I still prefer the scroll mode though.

But I still can’t see all LingQs created for this one lesson.
First I click on the yellow LingQs button and am told that there are no LingQs to review. Ok. Then I click on View all LingQs and I’m taken to the vocabulary page.
On the right, under lessons, the right lesson is chosen.
BUT on the left I see 72 LingQs, while I only created 20.
I suppose there is something I’m not getting but why can’t there be some straight-forward way on the lesson page itself?!

Fundamentally, the more modes we build, the more we need to support and maintain and update, and, since our resources are then spread around, the worse all modes get. We have gone down that path before. This time we would rather build one mode really well. All modes have advantages and disadvantages. We have chosen the current mode as the best option for most situations. In fact, as the designer for all the modes we’ve ever had and a user, I like all the different modes and see the value in all of them. However, I can say without a doubt, that this current mode is the most efficient version yet and that I use it more than I have ever used any other mode.

I suggest you give it a try and get used to it. You won’t look back.

So you’ve implemented it now. My point was that it was dismissed in beta testing. And it was. I don’t know what changed your mind on that specific thing, but my point in this thread of discussion is to highlight how suggestions were handled. A lot of it was responded to with a ‘well we like it this way’ and ‘we think this’ rather than listening to your already-paying customers.

See below where you respond to a valid concern with ‘many are happy using it’. Many probably aren’t. That specific user certainly isn’t. This type of response does nothing to reach a middle ground with him or others like him it just swats him away. Where were these polls that were taken for you to be so sure that you really know how people on here actually like things? I certainly wasn’t a part of anything like that. Or do you just go by lack of complaints?

The whole beta testing was a case of ‘this is a silly way to do it’ being responded to with ‘well we/others like it’.

Just sayin’.

I’m no longer a full member anyway so my opinions are now largely irrelevant.