I mean that the option to display traditional characters existed long time ago. By the time you joined, it had long gone. When I was new here, years before you, people were complaing about the automated convertion of traditional into simplified and asked to restore the functionality that you now see pop up unexpectedly.
#2 was brought up as an issue by myself in beta testing and was dismissed.
Thatâs really unfortunate. I guess I could set the browserâs popup blocker to block popups from lingq.com. But if users have to go out of their way to block an undesirable feature, itâs just bad product design. However, I think itâs important to keep bringing these issues up. Something that was dismissed when a single user pointed it out, might not be dismissed if more people complain about it. Especially given how easy to implement the option to not show any dictionary really is.
Itâs the utter resistance to changing things that are common sense which frustrate on here.
Being able to input your own definition straight away is a common sense feature. It shouldnât need more than one person to point out this common sense to have it changed.
The way the LingQ team works is Steve and Mark use LingQ how they want to use it, and then design the platform around how they like to use it.
Everybody else then comes second and they will change from their desired method of using the system only if enough people make a big enough deal out of it.
It should also be pointed out that in beta testing it was made abundantly clear that the new changes have come about solely to try and draw in and retain new users.
Paging was made because new users were not understanding how to use the platform properly. The ânot having a manual hint input boxâ was explained away by the dictionary thing and by the fact that it could âconfuseâ new users.
Any normal person with normal creativity skills would have simply put together a comprehensive how-to video aimed at children to show people how to use the site properly. Instead LingQ decided to completely revamp the entire thing, taking out things that current users like (like hover mode, which is no longer available, meaning you have to click every single word to see what it means if you donât want to manually scroll through the text one word at a time with the arrow keys).
Awesome update. Excited that my favorite language learning tool got a face-lift.
Quick question: is it possible to still see your level? At the end of every lesson it used to say âAdd x number of words to reach Advanced 2â for instance. I enjoyed the novelty of progressing through those
Funny you should mention that. Iâve read about this hover mode being a thing, however, in my year and a half of being a member, I have never witnessed so much a shred of evidence that there is such a thing implemented. Never. Unless Iâm mistaken, itâs supposed to show you the meaning of a word when you hover your mouse over it. Never happened for me. Luckily for me, for Japanese there are browser plugins that do just that. Iâve been using one called Rikaichan, not just for Lingq but all the Japanese I encounter on the web. Of course, itâs not seamlessly integrated with Lingq, but it works very well anyway.
So I canât really miss a feature that has never worked for me, the effects of which Iâve been achieving using an external tool. But I can understand that people would miss this feature (if there indeed ever was such a feature).
Well my preferred method is to go through a new text, define the words, then read later in hover mode where i can hover over any iâm not sure of.
This was swatted away with âwell you can just do it a different way now insteadâ.
Câest la vie, i guess.
You donât happen to have a screenshot of the mythical hover mode in action, do you? Because I still find myself doubting its existence
Hover mode was the only mode that has existed when I came to LingQ
Look here: Lesson Demo Video - YouTube
Wow that old version looked so simple and easy to use.
Sorry butâŚâstay true to their coreâ? A lot of requests from established users were ignored in favour of bringing in things aimed at recruiting new members.
Iâm pretty sure there is a list for the levels of each language. Itâs different for different languages, too.
Yes, it was simple to use and I was very sad when it was changed. I would love to have it back. My daughter still prefers hover mode.
Thanks and glad you like it! Yes, we will gradually improve all the pages over the next few months or so. The mobile app is also being rebuilt from scratch for both iOS and Android. They are both in beta now and we hope to have them available in the next few months.
We also have some improvements coming in the âhand holdingâ area you mention for beginners.
Good suggestions for the Daily LingQs. We will improve these as well and look at those ideas. Stay tuned!
Glad you like the update.
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Yes, it would be nice to store the settings server side. We will do this over time. We have to figure out what to do when the last word becomes known or ignored. It is handy that the selection go to the next highlighted word but is awkward when that word is on the next page. It has nothing to do with the paging moving to known feature.
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This is available as a keyboard shortcut - h
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We have tried to reduce these as much as possible. But, in fact, the spaces still have to exist for us iâm afraid.
The Android app is significantly improved over how it was when you first tried it Iâm sure. Many are happily using it now. Having said that, we are completely rebuilding it to match the new site and expect it to be much better when the new version is released later this fall.
Again, platyphylla, you can do this with the h key. I responded to you yesterday about this.
By the way, we used to embed dictionaries but more and more dictionaries prevent this so we had to go back to popups. Not our favourite solution either but one weâre stuck with Iâm afraid.
Thanks for the tip, I hadnât realized that this was the meaning of âpage sizeâ. Now the same lessons gets split into âonlyâ 3 pages. I still prefer the scroll mode though.
But I still canât see all LingQs created for this one lesson.
First I click on the yellow LingQs button and am told that there are no LingQs to review. Ok. Then I click on View all LingQs and Iâm taken to the vocabulary page.
On the right, under lessons, the right lesson is chosen.
BUT on the left I see 72 LingQs, while I only created 20.
I suppose there is something Iâm not getting but why canât there be some straight-forward way on the lesson page itself?!
Fundamentally, the more modes we build, the more we need to support and maintain and update, and, since our resources are then spread around, the worse all modes get. We have gone down that path before. This time we would rather build one mode really well. All modes have advantages and disadvantages. We have chosen the current mode as the best option for most situations. In fact, as the designer for all the modes weâve ever had and a user, I like all the different modes and see the value in all of them. However, I can say without a doubt, that this current mode is the most efficient version yet and that I use it more than I have ever used any other mode.
I suggest you give it a try and get used to it. You wonât look back.
So youâve implemented it now. My point was that it was dismissed in beta testing. And it was. I donât know what changed your mind on that specific thing, but my point in this thread of discussion is to highlight how suggestions were handled. A lot of it was responded to with a âwell we like it this wayâ and âwe think thisâ rather than listening to your already-paying customers.
See below where you respond to a valid concern with âmany are happy using itâ. Many probably arenât. That specific user certainly isnât. This type of response does nothing to reach a middle ground with him or others like him it just swats him away. Where were these polls that were taken for you to be so sure that you really know how people on here actually like things? I certainly wasnât a part of anything like that. Or do you just go by lack of complaints?
The whole beta testing was a case of âthis is a silly way to do itâ being responded to with âwell we/others like itâ.
Just sayinâ.
Iâm no longer a full member anyway so my opinions are now largely irrelevant.