“If one says he is an atheist he takes the concrete position that God doesn’t exist-. something he can’t prove.”
very, very wrong :). for me, anyone who claims that he knows that god does not exist is at the same position as someone who claims to know that god does exist. They both can’t prove what they are claiming. I am atheist and not agnostic because I know very well what I believe in, I do not have a slightest doubt about my beliefs, and that is : I believe that god does not exist. Does he really exist or not - I don’t have a clue. (the problem is that many atheists, as well as many religious people just do not think through their beliefs.)
Thanks, but that’s just my lingq nickname (my name is Milena)
you are absolutely right, I was talking about the Old Testament and Paul’s letter to (some people whose name I can’t spell ). I didn’t read Bible all the way through and I cannot say I will ever do it, but I have read enough to find both good and bad things (same for Koran). About killing, I will never forget the sentence that goes something like this (sorry, I’m translating from Serbian, I don’t know English Bible): …kill everything, every animal, every child on the mother’s breast… . As for the women, the comment goes like this: Woman should cover her head because, as man is lower than God, woman is lower than man. It definitely didn’t seem to me like a comment about specific culture :). Not to mention that in the Genesis god created women to be an ‘assistant’ to a man (so not someone who is absolutely equal), or for example a man who is willing to give his daughters to the horny crowd just to protect his guests (“I have two daughters who still did not know the man…” - sorry, again my clumsy translation, but something like that) - that all was just too much for my stomach :). that’s how I saw and felt about these things - I know that other people will understand them differently (and I’ll be fine with that as long as they don’t try to explain to me that I should read them differently, too).
Christ is a completely different story, I see him as one of the greatest philosophers. The story about the first stone is one of my most favourite stories ever…
Yes, I was talking only about Christianity, simply because everyone today knows what the problems in Islam are (even to the point that western world is becoming islamophobic). And because I’m coming from a Christian country, so had a lot of discussions about the subject. And some centuries ago, Christianity wasn’t that forgiving, either… For me, every religion is pretty much the same thing: someone might have had a nice idea. then someone else used it to gain power. Then once the idea was powerful enough, someone else used to justify killing to gain more power. And at the end, idea is compromised to the extreme, but of course, some people might still chose to go back to the roots of the nice idea… Same story as for communism…
As I already said it - I have no problem with people’s beliefs if they don’t tend to kill or discriminate others based on these beliefs (homosexuality is one distinctive example today and women were the one throughout the whole history).